The Lake Chapala Rumors Are True

August 20, 2011

Hi Everyone,  Here's short audio to end the speculation about a new development here at Lake Chapala, Mexico.

Some will be happy with what's coming and some not so happy.

I have mixed emotions. So, listen to the audio and then leave us a comment below to share your own thoughts.

All for now. Siempre tu amigo,

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  • Jane

    There goes the charm and the neighborhood.Best of luck.

  • http://www.chapalaclub.com Sid Grosvenor

    HI Jane, Thanks for your input. Tu amigo, Sid

  • Dr. Richard Doering

    Hi Sid,

    I’m wondering what effect this huge facility is going to have on the lake, itself, re: run off, sewage, or any other practice that almost lead to the lakes demise, in past years. The environmental people have worked hard to bring this lake back to what it used to be, and I think that someone/agency should be looking in to getting some answers before we’re left with what they built and the repercussions that could go along with it. I might remind you of the idiosyncricies of Mexican law.

  • Carol Rome

    What a shame. Money and the bad that comes along with it rules again. This is not an addition to the community that will draw many folks to want to live the quiet, peaceful life style that Lakeside currently offers. Additions like this Las Vegas style resort may provide jobs but along with this type of “recreation” comes all the bad. Gambling addictions destroy people and their families, the criminal element will be rubbing their hands together if they are not already involved and parents of young folks living at Lakeside and Guadaljara will have another thing to worry about. I have talked to my Mexican friends about the little casino in Ajijic and heard stories of people losing money they could ill afford to lose. This is not progress and I for one feel sad that some guys with big money and who are wanting to make that big money even bigger have chosen to “invest” in the Lakeside area. What a shame that “money talks”.

  • http://www.chapalaclub.com Sid Grosvenor

    HI Richard, You make some excellent points. Let’s hope the issues you raised have already been raised and addressed or will be in time to prevent bad consequences, Tu amigo, Sid

  • http://www.chapalaclub.com Sid Grosvenor

    Well. so far the comments seem to point out problems or potential problems.. Anyone out there think it’s a good idea? Sid

  • MaryAnn

    I don’t live in Chapala, yet, but it #1 on my short list for relocation next year. I have mixed emotions. I live in Florida where the native Seminole Indians have established several very successful Casino Resorts. The significant difference between their resorts and the one you describe is that all are owned, operated and run by the tribe. Profits are shared and distributed only to tribal members.

    Per your statement a USA corp is going to profit from this enterprise. Sure the resort will create jobs but will the US corp pay a fair wage? Will they distribute profits to the community for infrastructure, schools, hospitals? Will they protect the lake which is a precious asset?

    Also, casinos attract prostitutes and drug dealers. Mexico has enough problems with drug lords. Do you want this brought into your community?

  • Jackie Martinez

    What a Shame. If it’s successful it could be just the beginning.

  • Heather Krause

    Hi Sid,

    We would rather not see this coming to the Lakeside area for fear of all the expansion, growth, and everything that comes with it. I don’t think this will prevent people from wanting to move here… look at the huge housing growth in Las Vegas over the past few years. Casinos tend to draw people and expansion overall.

    It’s obvious why they would consider building it here, with all the NOB retirees (a staple of casino business) in addition to more middle class Mexicans in Guad with more money to spend on recreational and entertainment activities. I’m thinking Lake Tahoe of Mexico, and it wouldn’t surprise me if additional casino plans aren’t in the wings if this one does well. I’m somewhat surprised that this is the first large casino complex of its kind in all of Mexico… I would have expected something like this to go into existing, highly developed tourist locations first.

    I’m not convinced about a huge increase in crime associated with a casino, but can’t be sure. We heard all the same horror story predictions of doom and gloom when there were debates about allowing casinos in the Kansas City area. To satisfy Bible-Belt sensibilities, there were initially all sorts of restrictions placed on casinos built here. Over the years, those have been relaxed and more casinos came in until the area is fairly well saturated. There hasn’t been a big spike in crime related to the casinos, I don’t think, although I’m sure there is some and people with gambling problems are more likely to be tempted due to ease of access.

    We’re adopting a wait-and-see approach, and hoping that the majority of traffic and congestion stays between the casino and Guad (unfortunately, that’s not good news for folks in Bristas and Chapala Haciendas). Too soon to tell how this will affect property values in the area. While some will hate the casino and everything it brings, others will flock to the area as a tourist destination because of it. So values and demand for property and existing houses will change… maybe for better, maybe worse. The good news is that it’s apparently going to be a high quality resort project and not a dumpy slum sort of large casino, which would be more likely to draw problems.

    One way or another, it’s going to bring some major changes to the area and make for lots of discussion in the coming years!

  • Ray Starling

    The cartels are rubbing their collective hands together already!

  • http://www.chapalaclub.com Sid Grosvenor

    Hi Everyone, Thanks for ll your comments. It seems that most of you feel the new project will be an overall detriment to the area.

    I can only hope that your fears do not come to pass.

    I do want to thank each of you for participating and hope others will add their own input. Also feel free to update your comments or to comment on what other posters have already posted.

    PLEASE KEEP IT CIVIL. IF YOU DISAGREE please do so in an agreeable manner. Thanks again. Sid

  • Ruth

    I’ve been away for a few days and just got the news. I, for one, am not enamoured with the news of a casino/hotel at Lakeside. It is a big turn off for me, but then I don’t live there yet. Probably won’t now. Hope it doesn’t ruin it for everyone.

  • http://www.chapalaclub.com Sid Grosvenor

    Hi Ruth,

    Thanks for your comments. I’m taking a wait and see attitude to the new development. No doubt is will have both negative and positive consequences.

    Tu amigo, Sid

  • Arlene Cooney

    Hi Sid,

    Well this is certainly not the news I wanted to hear – we were settling there to get away from big city living and crime and certainly with Mexico’s drug problems a casino will certainly attract some criminal element – this makes me very nervous – wish I had waited one more year before we bought our home there – we may have made a different decision.

  • http://www.chapalaclub.com Sid Grosvenor

    Hi Arlene, Thanks for your thoughts.

    I think (hope) that the affect will be minimal on our quality of life here (of course I could be wrong).

    Thanks again again for sharing. Tu amigo, Sid

  • Paul James

    I am considering moving from the US to your area and I believe that this development can be a positive thing for your beautiful area. This will bring in new jobs, additional development, more tax revenue for providing services to the people of the Lake Chapala area. Please keep an open mind.

  • http://www.chapalaclub.com Sid Grosvenor

    Hi Paul, Thanks or your comment on the new development.

    Most folks who have responded think otherwise, but we all hope you’re correct.

    You can bet I’ll be monitoring the situation and report each time I learn something significant good or bad.

    Thanks again for voicing your opinion. Tu amigo, Sid

  • http://www.chapalaclub.com Sid Grosvenor

    Bed and Breakfast Article:

    Here’s a link to 3 great B and B places. There are many others to choose from. The three in the article always get good marks from my clients.

    http://tinyurl.com/4zqbgkyTu amigo, Sid

  • Gilbert

    we are going to build our owne water treatment thanks

  • Mike

    Hello, just thought I would throw my 2 cents in the pot. We (wife & I) were planning on coming down and looking at the possibility of investing in the area for future retirement. We currently are in the St. Louis area, and there have been several casino’s and gambling boats built in our area over the past few years. it has created many jobs, and brought in revenue to the cities. It has also caused many problems. Any time you start getting to big, and attracting more tourists to an area, atrracting more money, attracts criminals. Look at cancun as an example. My neighbor owns a timeshare there and is now trying to sell it, and doesn’t even want to use it anymore because of the criminal element that has established itself there recently. She was also going to attend Chapala with us considering a move there. We have all decided to NOT even pursue this idea and adventure, because we really don’t desire to relocate to an area when the negative results of outweigh the positive in the long haul. Once St. Louis people voted to allow a gambling boat on the river, then another one came, then a land casino, then another, and another, and we really cannot see that type development is what we are looking for. The movers and shakers of the casino crowds are really not what type of peace and tranquality we desire.

  • http://www.chapalaclub.com Sid Grosvenor

    HI Mike, Thanks for your comments and believe it or not I totally understand. I do have a question for you however.

    Do you plan to stay in the St Louis area? Where would you go to escape crime. I agree it’s a balance between economic development and the many jobs it brings and the unfortunate draw for more crime as more people with money come in.

    The area that most North Americans choose to live in at Lake Chapala is about a 30 miles stretch of the North Shore. Surely this entire stretch will not be covered up with Casinos. Of course I hope the planned Casino doesn’t attract much crime and that the good outweighs the bad. I suspect that there are still safe nice neighbors in or near St. Louis that are desirable areas, but never having been there I would withhold judgment.

    I would hope that you would come down to Lake Chapala and assess our area in person rather than rushing to judgment. You may find that you will fall in love with it, notwithstanding the fact that a large a casino is planned for the area..

    All for now. Tu amigo, Sid

  • Loyd G. Richey

    Well HI Sid, good to know you are still kickin’ old friend. Don’t know much about your area and the proposed Casino but it’s good to know where you are. I took 8 semesters of Spanish at DCJC and became pretty good at one point. When I worked for the Texas Racing Commission, my spanish was a god-send on the back-side of race tracks. Anyway, Happy New Year and

    Best,

    Loyd Richey

  • http://www.chapalaclub.com Sid Grosvenor

    Hey Lloyd,

    Great to hear from you. Come on down to Lake Chapala and find out what it’s like to live in paradise. A cop’s pension goes a long long way here. Billy P. keeps promising to come down to check us out, but he hasn’t made it yet.

    Simepre tu amigo, Sid

  • http://www.chapalaclub.com Sid Grosvenor

    Hey Lloyd,

    Great to hear from you. Why not come down for a visit and let me
    show what living in paradise is like. A cop’s pension allows you to
    live in luxury here.

    Billy P. tells me he’s going to surprise me someday and show up here.
    All for now. To learn more send an e mail to Sid@ChapalaClub.com.

    Siempre tu amigo, Sid (aka El Sid)

  • Fran Yates

    Are there any oral surgeons in Ajijic or Lake Chapala ?  I need to have some dental implants done and have heard that Mexico is a good place to have it done. 
    Please contact me at FYates5683@aol.com

  • Bob Inman

    I’m wondering what it is about Gringos in foreign countries who want it to be “Their” version. Maybe they should stay home. I constantly hear whines that I find amusing and there seems to be such an effort to avoid being involved with their culture and their preferences in THEIR country. Personally, this area is more like highly Hispanic areas of the U.S. where the Caucasion population acts superior to the Hispanics. I love the climate. The natives , other than the maniacs who drive the buses, have been kind and courteous almost without exception. I love the prices although not as inexpensive as Ecuador or Thailand but I find Ajijic too Gringo for me and will live elsewhere when my lease is up. I never see any Caucasions picking up trash or manicuring the lakeshore or physically doing much besides waving their arms and giving orders or hanging out in their little white cliques and being “Gringo”. Sorry, been here 5 months and everything I disliked about Americans and Canadians in the 14 countries I’ve lived in is here….in spades even though WE cheer every time we contribute to our surroundings.

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